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#21 Dave

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 06:24 AM

What should people do if they don't think the country is great anymore?

 

The words of Frederick B. Douglass come to mind.



#22 kelley

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 06:37 AM

The words of Frederick B. Douglass come to mind.


Not sure which words, and I thought the right answer was, "LEAVE THE COUNTRY." So I went looking at quotes and found treasures for this morning. Thanks for making the reference.

Edited by kelley, 20 September 2016 - 07:17 AM.


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Posted 20 September 2016 - 07:10 AM

What should people do if they don't think the country is great anymore?

Vote for Trump?



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Posted 20 September 2016 - 07:16 AM

Vote for Trump?



Ya'll making me cuss a lot lately.

There was a pattern, damnit. They can LEAVE THE COUNTRY!!

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 07:40 AM


There was a pattern, damnit. They can LEAVE THE COUNTRY!!

I did leave when I was young, spent years sailing the seven seas.

Seems it did not help much.

 

People still disrespect the flag, veterans, and the country in general.

I honestly feel if some of those folks had to live in a third world country for awhile, they would learn to appreciate what they have here.


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#26 kelley

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 07:44 AM

I did leave when I was young, spent years sailing the seven seas.
Seems it did not help much.

People still disrespect the flag, veterans, and the country in general.
I honestly feel if some of those folks had to live in a third world country for awhile, they would learn to appreciate what they have here.



The country and the state are two different things. The current anthem is about the state, and, as snowman alluded to, it's a pro-slavery tune.

I'm with those who think America the Beautiful would be more appropriate as far as expressing love of country, but it is overtly religious enough to be a questionable choice for an official anthem. However, for those who are religious it does a better job of elevating God and Creation rather than bombs and flags.

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 08:22 AM

"Police union asks deputies to not escort Dolphins until players stand for anthem"

 

Cops asked to not provide escorts to privileged a$$hats.

 

http://bit.ly/BLUE_RIGHTS_MATTERS

 

That is un-American.



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Posted 20 September 2016 - 08:25 AM

People still disrespect the flag, veterans, and the country in general.
 

 

You got that right. Hell, someone can go on national television and disrespect a P.O.W. simply because he was a P.O.W. and the Republicans will nominate them for POTUS.


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#29 Col-Arthur

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 09:15 AM

That is un-American.

Are you saying that if someone holds a different belief it is un-American?



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Posted 20 September 2016 - 09:16 AM

I did leave when I was young, spent years sailing the seven seas.

Seems it did not help much.

 

People still disrespect the flag, veterans, and the country in general.

I honestly feel if some of those folks had to live in a third world country for awhile, they would learn to appreciate what they have here.

 

You were so right then you stated:

 

"I honestly feel if some of those folks had to live in a third world country for awhile, they would learn to appreciate what they have here."

 

I've been to a number of 3rd world countries across the globe over the years and if one sees how people live is such countries, the 'learning time' to appreciate what we have here would be about would be about 2 seconds max. 



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Posted 20 September 2016 - 09:48 AM

Are you saying that if someone holds a different belief it is un-American?

 

it's un-American to use the police force for a political agenda. they should be neutral and provide service to ALL Americans.



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Posted 20 September 2016 - 10:05 AM

it's un-American to use the police force for a political agenda. they should be neutral and provide service to ALL Americans.

Those paid escorts to the privileged NFL players are positions filled by off-duty officers. The union is suggesting that they not accept private employment from the Dolphins.

I'd guess the Dolphin players would be more comfortable hiring Somali refugee mall cops.


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Posted 20 September 2016 - 10:55 AM

Those paid escorts to the privileged NFL players are positions filled by off-duty officers. The union is suggesting that they not accept private employment from the Dolphins.

I'd guess the Dolphin players would be more comfortable hiring Somali refugee mall cops.

I didn't read they were off-duty.  If they're off-duty then why would the union intervene?  Regardless, if they're hired to do a job and don't do it... that's sorta like Trump building something and then not paying the contractors invoices.



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Posted 20 September 2016 - 11:14 AM

I didn't read they were off-duty.  If they're off-duty then why would the union intervene?  Regardless, if they're hired to do a job and don't do it... that's sorta like Trump building something and then not paying the contractors invoices.

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Never ending or beginning on an ever spinning reel
Like a snowball down a mountain, or a carnival balloon
Like a carousel that's turning running rings around the moon
Like a clock whose hands are sweeping past the minutes of its face
And the world is like an apple whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind


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Posted 20 September 2016 - 01:45 PM

Why play nation-state-worshipping songs at sporting events in the first place? If they just skipped it, then no one could use it to protest and you wouldn't get your feelings hurt.


OMG..is this STILL NOT AMERICA? "WHY PLAY NATION-STATE-WORSHIPING SONGS"? If they don't like this NATION then they can get the HELL OUT!
'FEELINGS HURT'? What about my feelings that they are disrespecting my flag, my home, my country, my soldiers who died for the right for this song to be played, this flag to be flown?
I refuse to respect a trouble making, second string no-body who is only doing this for his 15 minutes because they were getting ready to sack him.
Actions like what this imbicile is getting away with only continue to divide our country!
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#36 jiyabird

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 01:52 PM

What should people do if they don't think the country is great anymore?


Canada to the North, Mexico...South America to the South, Europe to the East...the world is round....lots of countries do not demand or deserve respect. AMERICA is not one of them.

#37 jiyabird

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 02:00 PM

God I will be glad when November 9 gets here.
It will sure stop a lot of loose lips, mud slinging, insults, disrespect, ignorant remarks, vemenous comments, hateful actions.
If it does not succeed in anything else this election has certainty succeeded in dividing the country....and this chat.
I don't give a good g-dam who you vote for but I see no reason for all the nastiness that has been posted lately just because people are supporting someone you do not!
And btb, I am not innocent of such posts either....it just seems to be getting out of hand.
The words may not be against chat rules or even enough to antagonize Quaser but good grief people!
I have been on this chat for over 5 years and I have never seen such hurtful, angry rhetoric....it is pitiful.

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#38 kelley

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 02:09 PM

Canada to the North, Mexico...South America to the South, Europe to the East...the world is round....lots of countries do not demand or deserve respect. AMERICA is not one of them.


Finally! Someone gets it! I hear ya!!

If you think America needs to made great again instead of believing it is great, the greatest, now, get the hell on outta here!!!

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 02:10 PM

Finally! Someone gets it! I hear ya!!
If you think America needs to made great again instead of believing it is great, the greatest, now, get the hell on outta here!!!

Stop it!

#40 jiyabird

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 02:13 PM

The country and the state are two different things. The current anthem is about the state, and, as snowman alluded to, it's a pro-slavery tune.
I'm with those who think America the Beautiful would be more appropriate as far as expressing love of country, but it is overtly religious enough to be a questionable choice for an official anthem. However, for those who are religious it does a better job of elevating God and Creation rather than bombs and flags.

If we had not FOUGHT the British and WON we would not have a reason to want to listen to the words.

Edited by jiyabird, 20 September 2016 - 02:13 PM.





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