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#41 snowman

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 06:53 AM

there's a case to be made for limited-government... we need to be careful and not stray into a situation of too-limited-government.   case in point: Flint Michigan... and locally the city court mistake.


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#42 Sleepy

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 09:12 AM

But have free Insurance?



#43 Kevin Vissing

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 09:38 AM

Sleepy is trying to stir the pot here. Apples and oranges here Sleepy. Maybe start another thread on the county website about this if you want. Tell SR to be careful in the slick conditions. Rough outside today.

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 09:45 AM

Not really you have been on here numerous times bragging about your position not having insurance

while others do.  My point is why are you voting to give numerous part time workers insurance?

 

15 people vs Council,  which is cheaper for the taxpayer.   This is not stirring the pot, this is a tax payer

concerned how elected officials spend tax dollars.

 

I appreciate you answering questions..


Edited by Sleepy, 22 January 2016 - 09:49 AM.

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#45 Savile Row

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 09:53 AM

Breakfast Club Insurance Discussion

Hmmmm.....
SR is living rent free in your head.

SR is not involved with your  voting history.

 

Why you strangely jump in a post about

insurance approved by the county council for part time employees

and add SR  is astounding....

 

K, you are critical of others but won't disclose

if you have voted for the insurance or not

during the last EIGHT YEARS.
 
You have helped to "stir the insurance pot".
This issue will be in discussions for the 2016 election.

No obfuscations please.
Sleepy specifically asked:

"Did you vote for the raises for the Clark County Public Defenders??"

"I hear there are 16 of these positions many part time and many get insurance?"





Integrity Matters may have to audit this insurance thing

approved by the current members  of the county council

and paid  out of taxpayers' money.


Edited by Savile Row, 22 January 2016 - 10:35 AM.

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#46 Savile Row

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 10:11 AM

Breakfast Club 2016 Year Long Insurance Issue Discussion
 
Sleepy posted in response to K's attempted obfuscation: 
"Not really, you have been on here numerous times bragging about your position not having insurance
while others do. My point is

why are you voting to give numerous part time workers insurance?"

Sleepy has very intelligently asked questions about the costs.
No additional misdirection attempts, please.
 
Sleepy has exposed the Hypocracy.
 
How many part time county employees,

specifically public defenders, have received insurance benefits

as a result of county council votes
over the last eight years?

 

What has this cost the taxpayers over the last eight years.

 

The intelligent Sleepy has EXPOSED  a very germain issue.


Edited by Savile Row, 22 January 2016 - 10:49 AM.

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#47 Kevin Vissing

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 10:22 AM

I was concerned for your safety SR. Bad conditions outside. I figured you and sleepy were clearing sidewalks for those less fortunate.

#48 Savile Row

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 10:59 AM

K-11, you "critique" a different elected body for their votes,
weirdly include bro SR in your posts (again),
but refuse to answer very civil questions
about your voting record

over an eight year period for costly insurance

for a potentially large number of part time attorneys
 
No hypocracy or weak  obfuscatory spin is needed.
Sleepy has intelligently raised very good questions for the 2016 election cycle.
 
 
 
 
 
:popcorn:


Edited by Savile Row, 22 January 2016 - 11:28 AM.


#49 Pesty Version 2

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 11:37 AM


Edited by Pesty Version 2, 22 January 2016 - 11:38 AM.


#50 snowman

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 11:51 AM

But have free Insurance?

It should be looked at as part of an overall compensation package for elected folks, of course.  We should make sure we are compensating folks properly for doing this job... it's no walk in the park.  That being said, there's no justification for taxpayer funding, if they can get it as part of their regular job benefits.



#51 Kevin Vissing

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 12:53 PM

Not really you have been on here numerous times bragging about your position not having insurance
while others do. My point is why are you voting to give numerous part time workers insurance?

15 people vs Council, which is cheaper for the taxpayer. This is not stirring the pot, this is a tax payer
concerned how elected officials spend tax dollars.

I appreciate you answering questions..



#52 Jules

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 12:58 PM

"Feel the Bern" and this will be a moot conversation!!...Just saying. :)


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#53 Kevin Vissing

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 01:03 PM

Not really you have been on here numerous times bragging about your position not having insurance
while others do. My point is why are you voting to give numerous part time workers insurance?

15 people vs Council, which is cheaper for the taxpayer. This is not stirring the pot, this is a tax payer
concerned how elected officials spend tax dollars.

I appreciate you answering questions..



#54 hillbilly highway

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 01:14 PM

Not really you have been on here numerous times bragging about your position not having insurance
while others do. My point is why are you voting to give numerous part time workers insurance?

15 people vs Council, which is cheaper for the taxpayer. This is not stirring the pot, this is a tax payer
concerned how elected officials spend tax dollars.

I appreciate you answering questions..


Mr Vissing you may not want to point fingers at Jeff city council before you take a hard look in the mirror. It appears you and the county council are not much different.
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#55 Kevin Vissing

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 01:23 PM

Bragging? I try to answer questions in a factual way. Some times I kid arround, and shouldn't. Sorry bout that!

PD is an attorney that is paid to perform work for the county. To keep enough, their package includes insurance. This package was in place long before I was elected. The council has weighed this benefit, and believe it's in the best interest of the county to continue it.
On the other hand as an elected official, there is no qualifications. A councilman will get paid from the county or city whether they attend meetings or not. A PD has to perform, or they will be removed.I personally feel the taxpayers compensate me well enough. Thanks for allowing me this opportunity to weigh in. Kvissing
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Posted 22 January 2016 - 01:38 PM

Here's the problem as I see it with the City Council:

 

1.  All Council members (except 1) have full time jobs.

2.  None of the Council members quit their full time jobs when they were elected to the Council

3.  I am certain that ALL of the Council members had insurance of some kind prior to being elected to the Council.

4.  Being on the City Council is a PART-TIME job.

 

Since the council members did NOT quit their full-time jobs after being elected, WHY should they quit their health/dental/vision insurance with ther full-time employers and expect the taxpayers to pay for it??   

 

This is NO small perk.  It will cost the taxpayers approx. $600,000 over the next 4 years.   If the City does NOT provide insurance to part-time employees (less than 30 hours a week), why should the taxpayers provide insurance to part-time Council members???

 

The City Council is supposed to be fiscally responsible --- and GOOD STEWARDS of the taxpayers' dollars.  I fail to see how this is spending our tax money wisely.


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Posted 22 January 2016 - 01:41 PM

And don't forget my post #38 --- there is ANOTHER WAY to go about this and save the taxpayers a lot of money.   Are any of them smart enough to figure it out??  :no:



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Posted 22 January 2016 - 01:48 PM

How does Floyd keep PD s with no insurance??



#59 Kevin Vissing

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 02:36 PM

Higher pay.

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Posted 22 January 2016 - 03:35 PM

KV - Could we get details please?    

1. How much higher is a PD's pay in Floyd vs Clark County?  

2. What is the percentage of Full-time vs Part-Time PD's in the two counties?

3. Is there a threshold of time that part-time PD's must work in Clark County to get insurance, or does that perk begin with a single hour worked?


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