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#21 Savile Row

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Posted 10 September 2015 - 05:39 PM

Additional Revenue.

Overcome the "Insider Carping Politicians".

Intelligent and simultaneous step.

 

The advances

in RECYCLING PROGRAMS

have allowed many governmental jurisdictions

to significantly enhance their recycling programs

and show benefit all around. Many have become profitable

for specific governmental entities.

 

 

The RECYCLING PROGRAM can be spun off

into a totally  separate new entity

and completely restructured.

The recycling program

can be retained

by a new cooperative governmental entity

run by the county. There have been some preliminary discussions and planning.

 

The new  recycling program can be managed to be profitable.

Once it is up and running, managed, and  maintained as a county government operation,

the next step is explore selling the Recycling program.

The taxpayers obtain the benefit from the sale and the long-term royalties

and let a private business successfully manage  it.

 

Those funds and long-term royalties

can also go into a suitable infrastructure development capital fund.


Edited by Savile Row, 10 September 2015 - 06:17 PM.


#22 Savile Row

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Posted 10 September 2015 - 05:47 PM

Time to appoint a committee
and get this discussion started ASAP while this terrible SBOA audit is hot.
Some insider politicians may carp and try to block the idea,
but overcoming their "insider games"
can provide benefits to the citizens.


Edited by Savile Row, 10 September 2015 - 06:31 PM.


#23 Oldgoat

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Posted 10 September 2015 - 06:28 PM

Just to reiterate, I have personally seen dozens of semis lined up with east coast garbage waiting to unload at the old Centerpoint, IN and Flemingsburg, KY landfills. As someone else stated above, Commerce laws make it impossible to stop if it is privately owned.

#24 Savile Row

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Posted 10 September 2015 - 06:50 PM

Landfill Discussion
Step #3
What are the current
and future income projections from the landfill
in reference to landfill gas?

What is the current policy and situation?
Contracts?

This is not another 30 year contract is it....?
How can the financial benefits to the taxpayers be enhanced?
Status analysis....
 
Some reading:
https://www.duke-ene...landfillgas.asp
 
http://www.energysys...m/landfills.asp


http://www.huffingto..._b_5570361.html


Edited by Savile Row, 10 September 2015 - 06:57 PM.


#25 Kevin Vissing

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Posted 10 September 2015 - 09:15 PM

Thanks SR for the compliment on the 3 entities commissioners, county council, and the hospital board that signed off on the selling of our hospital.
Just to correct you SR..... the landfill has been a cash cow up until the recent investment of the IDEM mandated 20 million dollar slurry wall, and the closure fee costs. The landfill over many years has helped pave every rock road in Clark County, and many other needed things for the county over many years. It still is self sufficient.

I'm not saying we should or shouldn't sell it. Buying out a long contract, paying for all the mandatory closure fees,regulations, insurance, etc. It may not be of any value. Kinda like the hospital.
This carp you mention.....was it hard to get in the boat? Lol

Edited by Kevin Vissing, 10 September 2015 - 10:02 PM.

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#26 Savile Row

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 02:10 PM

Yes, it is time to properly utilize the resources,

get away from the continuing  mess,

and gain as much long term

financial benefit for the taxpayers as possible.

 

The landfill has value and the three areas should be correctly analyzed.

The time has come to maximize the potential benefit

with smarter decisions by the newly elected

office holders.

 

The analysis could reveal some important aspects that can be applied

to new goals  from the new leadership:

 

1.) Cash flow enhancement from  the landfill.,

2.) Revamping the recycling process.,

3.) The income from the  landfill gas.


Edited by Savile Row, 11 September 2015 - 02:38 PM.


#27 Savile Row

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 02:20 PM

There are always

"behind-the-times politicos" that have stayed too long,

that could have certain dated interests,

that do not comprehend new strategies,

or that oppose the intelligent maximization of new income streams and broader benefits.

 

We all get that.

 

However, the  intelligent next step to benefit the taxpayers

is to analyze the three areas and make intelligent determinations.

The commissioners did a great job with the hospital.

The landfill, recycling. and the landfill gas all now need a new complete analysis.


Edited by Savile Row, 11 September 2015 - 02:36 PM.


#28 Savile Row

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 02:33 PM

The new  economic analysis may reveal

that the transparency from this effort,

going against the old, entrenched political insider's process,

may provide a much greater benefit to the taxpayers.

 

 

It seems that it would be prudent to expose the old political situation

and work toward the goal  of providing greater benefit.

The scorching Indiana State Board of Accounts audit

has exposed severe problems.

 

Some of the "old insider politicians" may not like the state's audit

or the idea of a new economic analysis and still carp,

but the interests of the taxpayers

over the politicians

should come first.

 

Transparency and analysis may yield better results.


Edited by Savile Row, 11 September 2015 - 02:51 PM.


#29 Kevin Vissing

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 04:49 PM

Yes, SR it's good you aren't in politics anymore. I mean, the last mayor you worked under was mayor Vissing. Yes I'm getting older too, but it will be a while before I'm on social security.
That's why I was for getting some younger councilmen in there like Joe Hubbard.

Oh, I wanted to thank the attorneys who worked on the sale of the Hospital. Pam Thompson for the hospital board, Scott Lewis council attorney, Kevin Woodhouse, outside attorney, Lisa Glickfield attorney for the commissioners. They all played an important role for the three bodies that voted for the sale of the Hospital.

About the landfill gasses that are created by the trash. The cost of making the energy with the generators is a wash.

Edited by Kevin Vissing, 11 September 2015 - 05:08 PM.


#30 kelley

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 05:32 PM

Yes, SR it's good you aren't in politics anymore. I mean, the last mayor you worked under was mayor Vissing. Yes I'm getting older too, but it will be a while before I'm on social security.
That's why I was for getting some younger councilmen in there like Joe Hubbard.

Oh, I wanted to thank the attorneys who worked on the sale of the Hospital. Pam Thompson for the hospital board, Scott Lewis council attorney, Kevin Woodhouse, outside attorney, Lisa Glickfield attorney for the commissioners. They all played an important role for the three bodies that voted for the sale of the Hospital.

About the landfill gasses that are created by the trash. The cost of making the energy with the generators is a wash.


Going after SR personally, as you've done elsewhere recently too, is very unbecoming, Kevin. When asked why we should vote for you, you consistently respond that you're a nice guy. You should maybe brush up on your nice guy skills if you want to sport the brand.

Edited by kelley, 11 September 2015 - 05:32 PM.

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#31 GrumpyGranny

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 05:47 PM

Yes, SR it's good you aren't in politics anymore. I mean, the last mayor you worked under was mayor Vissing. Yes I'm getting older too, but it will be a while before I'm on social security.
That's why I was for getting some younger councilmen in there like Joe Hubbard.

 

 

Kevin, this sounds a bit like you are trying to out SR's identity...and outting, or attempting to out, a member is against our terms of use. 


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#32 Kevin Vissing

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 06:11 PM

I see it as vague. Thousands worked for mayor Vissing. Technically SR didn't work for MV. SR is a good friend of mine. Just having fun. I will stand corrected if you feel I was unbecoming of the chatter policies.

Edited by Kevin Vissing, 11 September 2015 - 06:21 PM.


#33 GrumpyGranny

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 06:40 PM

I see it as vague. Thousands worked for mayor Vissing. Technically SR didn't work for MV. SR is a good friend of mine. Just having fun. I will stand corrected if you feel I was unbecoming of the chatter policies.

 

There have one or two other "vague" references to SR's identity in the past; enough vague references put together by some of our folks and the member's identity has been outted. I'm glad the two of you are friends but unless SR advises that he's good with vague references to his history and/or identity posted on here, I have to ask you to omit future vague references to his past that may give away his identity.



#34 Kevin Vissing

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 07:05 PM

Fair enough. I don't want to go down in the history books with the famous HT, Jules,Matt, Goliath, and many others that were banned lol.

#35 Donna

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 07:10 PM

Jules?  You must be kidding!



#36 Kevin Vissing

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 07:14 PM

I think she was reinstated.

#37 Pesty Version 2

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 07:45 PM

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#38 Big Bopper

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Posted 11 September 2015 - 07:56 PM

Thanks SR for the compliment on the 3 entities commissioners, county council, and the hospital board that signed off on the selling of our hospital.
Just to correct you SR..... the landfill has been a cash cow up until the recent investment of the IDEM mandated 20 million dollar slurry wall, and the closure fee costs. The landfill over many years has helped pave every rock road in Clark County, and many other needed things for the county over many years. It still is self sufficient.
I'm not saying we should or shouldn't sell it. Buying out a long contract, paying for all the mandatory closure fees,regulations, insurance, etc. It may not be of any value. Kinda like the hospital.
This carp you mention.....was it hard to get in the boat? Lol


The landfill has also been a cash cow for past commissioners. A lot of pockets padded

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 03:22 PM

Sorry to disappoint, but I am not banned. I know you would prefer I was.

Fair enough. I don't want to go down in the history books with the famous HT, Jules,Matt, Goliath, and many others that were banned lol.


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#40 GrumpyGranny

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 03:53 PM

Fair enough. I don't want to go down in the history books with the famous HT, Jules,Matt, Goliath, and many others that were banned lol.

 

Starting rumors now, Kevin? Matt wasn't banned; neither was Goliath. Goliath has never posted on this version of the Chatter (started July, 2010) by his own choice. I personally asked Goliath to join several times but he would not. Jules was indeed banned but reinstated and still posts on the site whenever she wishes.

 

The rest? They were warned, they chose to ignore the warnings, and now they're gone. Funny thing, one guy told me we needed him worse than he needed us...he's long gone, we're still here... :laugh:   


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