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#1 snowman

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 05:06 AM

Releasing transcripts of testimony out of context, and not releasing others, that don't agree with their narrative, is just what I'd expect from Trey Gowdy.  Republican standard operating procedure...

 

 

 

WASHINGTON—Today, Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, Ranking Member of the Select Committee on Benghazi, released the following statement after the completion of the Committee’s transcribed interview of former State Department Chief of Staff, Cheryl Mills:

"After listening to many hours of testimony with Cheryl Mills today, I believe every single American should be able to read this transcript as soon as possible.

"The American people should be able to see for themselves that none of the wild Republican allegations against Secretary Clinton have been substantiated.  

"The Secretary did not personally authorize cables that reduced the State Department’s security in Libya, and she did not order the military to stand-down, as some have alleged.

"Ms. Mills answered every single question thoroughly, and she handled herself as a consummate professional. I thank her for her service.

"I also believe the Committee should immediately release the transcript of Sidney Blumenthal’s deposition, but the Chairman has refused to schedule a vote—as House Rules require—and instead has insisted on keeping that testimony secret too, even as the Committee selectively leaks other documents out of context.

"Unfortunately, it appears that the Select Committee has shelved its core work on Benghazi to focus almost exclusively on Secretary Clinton and her aides in an effort to attack her bid for president.

"The Committee has not held a single hearing since January—more than eight months ago.  We were supposed to have hearings with the Defense Department and the intelligence agencies, but we never had them.  To be clear, these were hearings the Chairman himself was planning to hold.

"Instead, over the past 16 months, the Committee has spent more than four million dollars, but we have held only three hearings and fewer than 50 interviews—one of the least productive congressional investigations in history.

"This severe misuse of taxpayer resources and Congressional power has done very little to help protect our diplomats around the world."


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#2 littletommy

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 04:12 PM

Lol! Poor hillary being singled out and attacked? That certainly doesn't fit the narrative that our government has been practicing for the last few years. Boo frikken hoo, if it keeps hillary from sending us further down the ****hole, I'm good with it.

You liberals are funny!

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 04:53 PM

You liberals are funny!

 

Define "liberals".



#4 littletommy

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 05:28 PM

I won't play your little games in this thread, you define liberals.

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Posted 04 September 2015 - 06:08 PM

I won't play your little games in this thread, you define liberals.


Just seems like if you insist on arbitrarily hanging a label on someone and lumping them in with a group that they may or may not want to be lumped in with, you could at least have the courtesy to explain why you're doing it.
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#6 snowman

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Posted 05 September 2015 - 07:03 AM

little tommy, describing liberals as being "funny"...  well i'll take funny over scary.

republicans in congress, they're obviously using these hearings to score political points... when they release selected transcripts of testimony taken out of context, and then hide testimony behind closed doors that is not beneficial to their cause...

not funny at all. downright scary.


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Posted 05 September 2015 - 07:50 PM

What really scares me is that somebody wants to boohoo that poor hilary is being mistreated....and is SERIOUS!
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#8 Donna

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Posted 05 September 2015 - 09:19 PM

What, this is the EIGHTH time this special committee has investigated hoping to find something . . . anything.

 

No "boohoo"ing littletommy, just booing at the double standards.

 

How many committee investigations were conducted over 9/11?


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Posted 06 September 2015 - 10:32 AM

What, this is the EIGHTH time this special committee has investigated hoping to find something . . . anything.

 

No "boohoo"ing littletommy, just booing at the double standards.

 

How many committee investigations were conducted over 9/11?

 

Not many.   But there was, later,  a criminal investigation into who in the administration leaked the identity of Valerie Plame.  Remember?  She was a spy working against the proliferation of  WMD.   Her husband,  correctly,  stated that the Administrations' proof of an Iraqi nuke program was false.  (That Iraq did NOT get 500 tons of uranium 'yellowcake').   

 

As we now know,  the whole argument for the war was a pack of lies from dishonest 'informers'  used by the administration to sell the war they wanted.  Many...... many died because of this and we now have the ISIS problem in this region in large measure due to the destabilized Iraq nation. 

 

Turns out  Scooter Libby and Karl Rove outed old Valery Plame. But,  only Libby  (Cheney's right hand man btw)  paid a price.

One of the more despicable deeds done by the warmongers....outing our own spy.   

 

Cheney pleaded with Bush to pardon Libby.  

 

In that mass of deception,  more than 5000 American soldiers were killed.  Many more damaged.  Thousands of Iraqui citizens. 

 

VOMITUS MAXIMUS


Edited by Pesty Version 2, 06 September 2015 - 10:34 AM.

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Posted 06 September 2015 - 04:33 PM

Not many. But there was, later, a criminal investigation into who in the administration leaked the identity of Valerie Plame. Remember? She was a spy working against the proliferation of WMD. Her husband, correctly, stated that the Administrations' proof of an Iraqi nuke program was false. (That Iraq did NOT get 500 tons of uranium 'yellowcake').

As we now know, the whole argument for the war was a pack of lies from dishonest 'informers' used by the administration to sell the war they wanted. Many...... many died because of this and we now have the ISIS problem in this region in large measure due to the destabilized Iraq nation.

Turns out Scooter Libby and Karl Rove outed old Valery Plame. But, only Libby (Cheney's right hand man btw) paid a price.
One of the more despicable deeds done by the warmongers....outing our own spy.

Cheney pleaded with Bush to pardon Libby.

In that mass of deception, more than 5000 American soldiers were killed. Many more damaged. Thousands of Iraqui citizens.

VOMITUS MAXIMUS

But, but, but...Hillary! Pantsuits! Email! Cankles! Drip drip drip! Liberals are funny!
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Posted 07 September 2015 - 06:51 AM

All politicians are crooked.  Conservatives and Liberals.  It's what's wrong with this country.  


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#12 snowman

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Posted 29 September 2015 - 04:45 AM

Benghazi... now the longest running Congressional hearing in history!

 

longer than Watergate. wow.



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Posted 01 October 2015 - 03:48 PM

"Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right?" he said. "But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee, what are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping..."

 

 

a transcript from Hannity, Fox News...   stated by House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), the likely successor to Speaker John Boehner.  This guy is way too truthful for his party's sake.


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#14 kelley

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 04:04 PM

If that's all he said, there is no, "we did this for this reason." It's a descriptive comment, not a confession.

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 04:07 PM


“This stunning concession from Rep. McCarthy reveals the truth that Republicans never dared admit in public:  the core Republican goal in establishing the Benghazi Committee was always to damage Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and never to conduct an even-handed search for the facts.  It is shameful that Republicans have used this tragedy and the deaths of our fellow Americans for political gain.  Republicans have blatantly abused their authority in Congress by spending more than $4.5 million in taxpayer funds to pay for a political campaign against Hillary Clinton.”

 

 

from Elijah Cummings, committee member...



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Posted 01 October 2015 - 04:07 PM

If that's all he said, there is no, "we did this for this reason." It's a descriptive comment, not a confession.

that's funny... i mean this is a confession. period.

 

you have to forgive an awful lot, seriously, to believe otherwise. they have conducted this investigation in a very determined way. and it's just to the point of being ridiculous!


Edited by snowman, 01 October 2015 - 04:21 PM.


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 04:26 PM

that's funny... i mean this is a confession. period.


Because you and a politician say it is? That's funnier. Words mean things. Show me the part where he said, "we had the hearings to affect the election," "we had the hearings to see her poll numbers drop," etc.

Perspective is influencing ya'lls understanding of the English language. It was a dumb thing to say because their opponents were obviously going to use it as they are. It's entirely possible, likely even, that the Republicans' motivation in the hearings are to screw Hillary. It still doesn't make that quote say they did it for that purpose.

Him saying it and ya'll repeating it are both spin.

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Posted 01 October 2015 - 05:26 PM

i've been reading all the national blogs and that's just what the bigwig republicans are saying...

 

it's a very odd combination of concepts to string together...

1) that everyone thought hillary unbeatable.

2) and putting together a benghazi select committee

3) her numbers are coming down

 

when the purpose of a benghazi committee would naturally be to investigate benghazi. but it sounds like in his mind it was to bring hillary's numbers down. 1 and 1 = 2 usually, or it should.


Edited by snowman, 01 October 2015 - 05:31 PM.


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 05:40 PM

a transcript from Chris Hayes, All In... last night:

 

 

SCHIFF:  ...if you look at the way the committee has operated, notwithstanding these promises that were made by the speaker and by our chairman in the very beginning, they have not worked with Democrats at all, they've called witnesses without telling us, they've subpoenaed people with armed marshals who were wiling to cooperate, and they have interviewed witnesses without even notifying the minority party, and when those witness interviews didn't corroborate their conspiracy theories, they didn't even tell us. We had to learn about those interviews ourselves.

HAYES:  Wait, wait, wait - let me make sure I understand that. The committee has interviewed witnesses without notifying Democrats on the committee that those interviews were going to happen?

SCHIFF:  Absolutely. They've interviewed several witnesses, they didn't tell us they were going to interview them. They didn't invite us to participate and listen to the interviews. And when we later found out those interviews took place, and we talked to those witnesses, we learned of course that they didn't corroborate any of the conspiracy theories that the Republicans were trying to advance. So no wonder they didn't tell us about the interviews.

HAYES:  How can that be? Maybe I'm wrong here, but that's not the way committees work. There's an agenda that's circulated to the entire committee. There's a list of witnesses. There's a procedure that the committee is all read in on.

SCHIFF:  Well, they just ignored it. And in fact, to give you yet another example, when they subpoenaed a witness, and this is a true (inaudible - break in audio)...that he won't leak transcripts, won't leak interviews. After almost all the interviews there have been profound leaks from the committee, and when Democrats said, "if you're going to leak the statements of the witness, why don't you release the entire transcript? If you're going to leak emails from this witness, release the entire transcript of their private interviews so the public can evaluate the entire context." And we have the right under their own rules to have a vote on this, and they've denied us even a vote on it.


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Posted 01 October 2015 - 09:47 PM

a transcript from Chris Hayes, All In... last night:

Yea, they refused to work with the Democrats that tried everything in their power to stop the investigation, that refused to turn over documents, that refused to testify... You can't be serious!  If a Republican had stood up in front of America and the world and KNOWINGLY blamed an innocent film maker for the attack when they knew it was coming for weeks, they would have been impeached within 6 months.  Obama and Hillary lied, repeatedly to the American people.  They should go to jail!


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