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#161 Holy Cow

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 04:00 PM

That is a great question IM. I do not think the law states a definitive timeline. One may have to file a question or complaint with the Public Access Counselor to get the right answer.

#162 Holy Cow

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 04:00 PM

That is a great question IM. I do not think the law states a definitive timeline. One may have to file a question or complaint with the Public Access Counselor to get the right answer.

#163 Donna

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 09:14 PM

Great letter to the editor of News & Tribune today.  Tried to get the link, but I am tech unsavvy - *SIGH*



#164 Savile Row

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Posted 24 March 2015 - 10:11 PM

Donna, I found it!
This is an excellent letter-to-the-editor!
 click:

http://www.newsandtr...0c9ed3ef2d.html
Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 7:30 am
School Tax Referendum

The Greater Clark County School district announced that it is contemplating a large tax referendum in order to build new schools and renovate others. They will propose to close both Maple Elementary and Spring Hill Elementary and build a new school in the downtown area to accommodate students from both these schools. To do so will require millions of dollars and the only way to fund this is through higher taxes. The school system may place a referendum on the November ballot asking citizens to approve an increase in taxes to fund these projects. School taxes acquired through a referendum are not subject to the tax cap so taxpayers will not be protected from higher tax bills based on their home’s assessed value. Your property taxes will go up.


 


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#165 kelley

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Posted 25 March 2015 - 02:10 PM

Article from today on the referendum effort in Floyd Co.

http://m.newsandtrib...0.html?mode=jqm

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Posted 07 April 2015 - 02:33 PM

Did I read the GCCS Board Agenda for tonight correctly that the Superintendent is going to present the facility condition study from January 2014 at tonight's meeting?



#167 IntegrityMatters

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Posted 07 April 2015 - 07:37 PM

Yes --- the power point presentation is on the board doc site.   It sounds like they want to virtually replace or extensively renovate 9 out of 12 elementary schools - -and make some renovations  to the middle schools or possibly replace a couple.    I found some of the pictures rather humorous --- there is a picture of a doorknob that says it is "non-compliant"?   I would think that the maintenance department could change out a doorknob.  There were a few other pictures of maintenance items that could easily be fixed --- someone needs to put in a repair order for the maintenance crew.     What the presentation did not address was the estimated cost of all these proposed renovations/replacements.

One thing people need to remember is that this "study" was done by Kovert Hawkins - an architect firm.  Guess who would stand to gain significantly if all these renovation projects and building projects materialized.   

It will be interesting to see GCCS' next step ----- hello referendum!


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#168 Savile Row

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 07:11 PM

The leak at the breakfast hotspots

this morning was that the GCCS powers now intend

to continue to attempt to close BOTH

Spring Hill and Maple Street

and the newest  double super secret plan is to build at the old school bus depot !

The silly idea for a new $15,000,000 elementary at 8th and Spring sunk.

The next silly idea to build at the area where

the old Frank's Steak House

was located

literally

drowned under the last heavy rain.



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Posted 28 April 2015 - 07:33 PM

Neighborhood schools  should be strengthened not shuttered.

Closing neighborhood schools destroys neighborhoods.

From a sociological point of view it

"ghosts" neighborhoods

to close their schools.

It would be a far better idea

to keep both Spring Hill and Maple and then re-open Eastlawn.

I think that there is a citizen organization plan

to propose that option:

1.)Keep Spring Hill.,

2.)Keep Maple.,

3.)Re-open Eastlawn.


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#170 Savile Row

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 07:54 PM

School/Local Neighborhood  Social  Interaction

Try this concept.

It is an established  "concentric zonal theory".

(Schools should not be built in really dumb locations.)

Schools should be built in local residential neighborhoods where the children, families, and the school

can be mutually supportive.  The school should be accessed by walking

from all directions by the local community's neighborhoods.

360 degrees.

:poke:

:thumbsup:


Edited by Savile Row, 28 April 2015 - 07:58 PM.

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#171 IntegrityMatters

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 08:01 PM

You are correct about it being a "super secret plan".   Even though the school system has had the report from Kovert Hawkins for over a year --- in fact one year and 2 months --- they refuse to release the entire report.   The News & Tribune asked for it and was denied.   An Open Records request was filed on April 1st and so far no report has been received.  They did send a link to the power point presentation that KH made at a recent board meeting --- but this is NOT the entire report.  In fact, in my opinion, it was designed merely to give a brief synopsis of what parts of the report they want the public to see in order to make us believe there is a need for millions of dollars to be raised through a referendum.   It was most likely prepared at the advice of their marketing expert Steve Klink and will be used when they start making their public presentations.   If you look closely at the power point presentation and the items they say need to be corrected -- some bad ceiling tiles, doorknobs, some pipes that need to be wrapped, an exit sign that is lopsided, etc. etc., -- you will find that these items are minor and in fact have most likely already been corrected.   The one thing they criticized that hasn't already been changed is the "open concept" classrooms at Northaven and another school.  Although open classrooms have been around a long time and many schools operate quite successfully with this concept, the administration could easily build a permanent wall if they really thought it necessary.  Building a brand new school is a waste of taxpayer money.    Bottom line is that the schools are not in that bad condition --- the things that may need to be fixed could be fixed.   The minor things can be done by the in-house maintenance staff (and many of them already have been done).  

A new building will not improve students' academic performance ---- and that is what it is supposed to be about, right?   Let's start focusing on what is best for the children.    


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#172 Savile Row

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 08:01 PM

Walking/neighborhood access in any areas that can be utilized.

Spring Hill.

Eastlawn.

Northaven.

Bridgepoint.

Maple.

Etc.


Edited by Savile Row, 28 April 2015 - 08:04 PM.


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Posted 28 April 2015 - 10:29 PM

I agree with you, SR, but Eastlawn has already been lost.  We're not getting that back.

 

Yet, Eastlawn, Rose Hill, Middle Road School and others, were shelved by GCCS because of "extensive repairs needed" and yet they still operate today.

 

When we allow neighborhood schools to be shut down, we close off neighborhoods.


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#174 IntegrityMatters

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Posted 03 May 2015 - 04:07 PM

Board meeting Wed. night at 7.   Melin is going to give another "presentation" on the status of the GCCS "plan"!    Should be interesting to see what gets released to the public this time.   I believe this whole thing is being orchestrated by the marketing specialist hired by GCCS.   The idea is to release as little information as possible to an unwary public and make them think fancy new buildings are needed.  And make the public think that this will all cost them very, very little! 

 

 They still refuse to release the entire 300 page report to the public ----  after all, what do we know -- or rather what do we need to know?   It's just our money they want to spend.   Why should we care!  

 

Expensive, new, fancy buildings will not improve academic performance.   


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Posted 05 May 2015 - 08:15 PM

The tax referendum was voted down in Floyd County. Hopefully, the voters in Clark County will follow suit. If GCCS has enough money for three radio stations, they have enough to renovate the elementary schools which need it. If there isn't enough money, then GCCS needs to prioritize the "safety" of those elementary students over the radio station wants of a few which will benefit fewer than 100 students. Plain and simple.


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Posted 06 May 2015 - 08:39 PM

Greater Clark wants $119 million (Floyd County only wanted $80 million)..   Plan to close Pleasant Ridge and build a new school on 403.   Close Maple, Spring Hill, Thomas Jefferson and Bridgepoint.  Build a new middle school in Jeff -- somewhere out towards Port Road.   Renovate Parkview to become a 650 to 750 student elementary school.   Move Maple and Bridgepoint students to Parkview; move Spring Hill kids to Northaven.  Renovate & expand Northaven.  Move TJ kids to Wilson which will also be renovated and expanded.  Make Bridgepoint an alternative school.      Renovate River Valley and Charlestown Middle and do away with the open concept.   Still need to renovate approx. 200,000 sq ft at JHS which was not touched during earlier renovation.  

 

This, if approved, will definitely raise taxes for all citizens in Greater Clark area --- taxes raised through a referendum are NOT subject to the tax caps.  Your taxes can rise above the cap.  

 

Savile Row - your inside knowledge is pretty spot on.


Edited by IntegrityMatters, 06 May 2015 - 08:42 PM.

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#177 Savile Row

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Posted 09 May 2015 - 12:47 AM

"Savile Row - your inside knowledge is pretty spot on."

Thank you. That is very nice of you to say.



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Posted 09 May 2015 - 11:42 PM

They teach it enough in schools, why can't the school board follow suit. Reduce reuse recycle baby. I hope this doesn't pass.


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#179 Savile Row

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Posted 11 May 2015 - 10:46 PM

deja vu all over again:

Post # 54 revisited:

Does anyone remember when the ENTIRE

Riverside Elementary School

was demolished for several PHONY reasons

and then entirely rebuilt

at great expense.

How much did that bond issue alone cost the taxpayers ?



Least we forget,

Riverside had....horrors... some cracks in the concrete

and ...gasp the Evil bugaboo of....MOLD !

Quick, run out of the building!





GET READY FOR PHONY EXCUSES both relating to the "condition of the buildings"

and the dern, pesky mold thing.




Mold remediation is not difficult.

It is often utilized by powerful special interests

as a justification

to scare the masses.

Even if it is a real temporariry problem,.

it will be used as a justification for this scam.

Remember there are 2,000 types of naturally occurring mold

and only are ten (10)

are even remotely dangerous to humans.

Those are very rare

and are very easy to quickly mediate.


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