Rod, I am afraid we will just have to disagree. If you believe we should "ready our high school kids to the cold, cruel world", I wonder if you think we should provide all of them with a gun and train them how to use it? I believe that studying or reading works of literature is quite different than a teacher/coach using foul language within a classroom or on the sports field which is directed at their students. But that is my opinion and you have yours. I agree with Overit's husband.... "if you wouldn't say it in front of your mother or your six year old, then just don't say it". Hopefully educated adults can make a point without using foul language. If they can't, then that is sad. While it may not offend your child, remember that your child is only one of the players on the team. It may be quite offensive to another. Better just to not say it at all in my opinion. Have a nice weekend too. IM p.s. I took 3 years of Latin in high school (ugh) and the only "salty" words I ever remembered from my Latin teacher was one day when he said to the class....."now remember that there are 3 Latin words that all mean "where".......Ibi, Ubi and Unde. Ibi - where, Ubi-where and Unde-where" !!
I respect that, IM!! I do think the comparison you make to "provide all of them with a gun and train them how to use it" vs. my statement of "preparing them for the cold cruel world" is taken WAY out of context and is like comparing watermelons to sunflower seeds.......chances of a child encountering someone with a gun having to defend his self / her self in the cold cruel world, vs. preparing them for someone that will use "salty language" in their presence is like comparing night and day. But I understand your premise!! (Oh......and let me be clear that I'm a FIRM believer in the 2nd Amendment!! But that's another topic!!)
Look, I don't want ANY of my Chatter friends thinking I'm some kind of lawless heathen (ha-ha......although there's some that know me that would say that's a hopeless case and already think lowly of me!!), so let me state this: I'm NOT an advocate of the f-bomb........but there are other words that some consider profane that I think can be used in a context to emphasize a point, grab a kid's attention, etc., etc. And we ALL have to remember this: Most high school teams have tryouts......unlike the "everybody gets a trophy" philosophy we NOW treat our kids with, you had to MAKE a high school team back in the day. NOTHING gives a kid the RIGHT to play on a high school team!! He / she has to survive the cut to make it. If they can't take a little cursing (once again, NO ridiculous tirades, nothing personal, etc., etc.), then maybe that team is not for them!! To fire / ban a coach (especially a successful, effective coach) for using some curse words now and then, I think is wrong. Guess I'm just old school..........it didn't bother me, and it doesn't bother me if my kids catch a few words every now and then to emphasize a point, or if they're deserved!! That's all. Guess we could continue this argument forever........as I said, my only concern is that we start a witch hunt against coaches who sometimes use them effectively. A coach using curse words every now and then no more ensures his failure (or success) anymore than the coach who chooses not to use those words. It's just a different style. They both can find success, but you can't lump all styles together. What's the old saying: "You say toe-may-toe, and I say toe-mot-toe. Oh and one more thing......just because one curses periodically does NOT mean that individual is an uneducated buffoon and can't make a point......they just choose to do so differently!! Just want to point that out!! Truthfully (AND I'M GOING TO GET LAMBASTED FOR THIS STATEMENT), I find people who are always "puppy dogs and sunshine" disingenuous, fake, and offensive every bit as much as someone who gives me a (pardon my French) "d a m n" or "h e l l", etc. every once in a while!! Sorry, I'm being truthful, and "callin' 'em as I see's 'em". Sorry if that offends anyone!!
Truth be said, I kinda liken all of this to Sunday church........many "good Christians" slap one another on the back and shake hands as they greet each other and walk into church on Sunday. But as soon as the service is over and the congregation has gone their separate ways, the gossip flows like wine!! I'd rather have a coach curse a little at my son or daughter vs. the rumors that get started with the scenario referenced above......at least I know the coach is trying to motivate / help my kid, vs. the gossipers trying to bring them down!! I know where I stand with the coach!! That coach is no worse of a person than those referenced above.......just how I see it!!
Thanks everyone. I know you guys are tired hearing my rants, so I will shut up now!! Haven't been on here much lately, so I'm sure you guys are about ready for me to ride off into the sunset again!! So I'm gonna mosey on down the road.......happy trails to you....until we meet again........
Keep it real everyone!! You guys make my "jelly roll." ;-)
Edited by JHS1982, 07 August 2013 - 10:40 PM.