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#1 reisooh

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:08 PM

An agreement to halt an eight-day escalation of violence in Gaza and Israel was announced at a news conference by U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Egypt's foreign minister.




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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:41 AM

Well so much for the truce....
Israel made 100 strikes last night. And Hamas launched in excess of 30 rockets.
There can be no truce until Hamas stops sending rockets into Israel. And provoking Israeli responses.

Contrary to what they keep saying to the media... Its obvious.Hamas doesnt want peace. They want to draw Israel in deeper hoping the other arab nations will respond in their support.

So they will keep playing up the civillian toll, the damage, and the zionist aggression angle .. And keep playing it up to the media to get everyones sympathies.

While they continue shooting rockets at civilian targets in Israel . And claiming they are the victims.

I believe Israel will begin its ground offensive by next week.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:36 PM

A deal to end the bloody eight-day conflict in Gaza and Israel has been announced in Egypt overnight and is expected to take effect at 9pm local time. The details of the deal are unclear, although it is understood Israel had agreed to the truce but would not lift its blockade on the Palestinian territory -- a key condition from Hamas and other militant factions in Gaza.
In return Israel had demanded an end of the continual rocket attacks on its southern communities and enhanced efforts from Egypt and others in the international community to prevent Hamas from replenishing its weapons supply.


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Posted 22 November 2012 - 12:40 AM

It's only a matter of time before it starts again.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 08:03 AM

Morsi is full of himself because he feels he alone brokered the cease fire . And is consolidating his power in Egypt. Essentially making himself a dictator until the new constitution is written. ( whenever that happens ).
Since the Turks dont seem to want to push their weight around.... And the focus on dealing with Iran's nuclear program..
I think he sees and opening for Egypt to become the new "big dog" in the middle east. Question is what happens from here. His ties to the Muslim Brotherhood are disturbing. And the Egyptian Army is very political. But right now silent.

I think this whole situation is becoming potentially very unstable. As the Syrian conflict continues... and the chances of a lasting cease fire between Israel and Hamas is unlikely.
It could evolve into a situation where Iran, Turkey, and Egypt will be eyeing each other to see who tries to push their influence. And become the dominant Muslim country in the region... Its starting to take on a look that reminds me of the final scene in "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly"

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 12:18 PM

The billion plus dollars we send to Egypt military each year gets us what we want and a separate message from Egypt to other countries needing a reassurance things are ok. The Muslim Brotherhood is the parent organization of Hamas. So now our money buys us someone with power who has proven he can control the most radical elements within. As Syria fractures the danger of an Alawi state will come forward. You'll see Iraq side with Iran and Syria, they'll want their chunk. The Kurds in Northern Iraq wil want their own country containing parts of Iraq, Turkey and Syria. The former Syria will consist of two or more states, both hostile to Israel. One of these states will have a decent degree of control over any chemical and biological weapons they possess. The other state will be an unstable rogue state and they may have these same weapons.

The half million plus Alwais in Northern Lebaonon will join with those in Syria, Turkey etc etc. The biggest danger of an Alawi state in or around the former Syria is that it will be a heavily armed state, friendly to Iran. It will also result in Russia maintaining a naval base in Tartous.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 08:26 AM

Nice analysis kindle.




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